Sydney Race Riots...

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Postby mrkeys » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:01 pm

scottik187 wrote:

The other 4800/4900 people in Cronulla were neither participating in the racial chant or the violence.



I agree with what Dom said about people from outside the Shire being involved but if you want to stereotype "people of middle eastern appearance" then we can stereotype these people into the "people of caucausian surf culture appearance"

As for not everyone participating they may not have been they where just standing idly by whilst women of ethnic origin where assaulted and middle easterners where bashed.

As a great band once said "silence so much violence"

It's easy to say oh yes it was all the neo-nazis, it was all someone else.
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Postby Chantel » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:11 pm

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Postby scottik187 » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:12 pm

im just trying to tell the real story, of what actually happened. Otherwise known as an eye witness account.

However, if you all choose to believe the media and what they have told you then go ahead. Its not like the media ever sensationalises things is it???

i never denied that there was racism in the crowd, im just saying that for the majority of people down there it didnt start like that nor were they participating. And dont sit on ur high horse and say "standing by and watching is participating" or "why didnt you stop it". Have you ever tried to stop a raging mob of drunken muscle bound dickheads??? It just cant happen.
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Postby craigwardo » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:14 pm

I feel like beer.

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Postby Hitman » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:14 pm

scottik187 wrote:The day started just like Australia day, national pride a plenty and the beer flowing. The majority of the crowd were just mingling around, chatting and were well behaved.


And how many people were of NON caucasian appearance?

Would I have been allowed to mingle without fear of being attacked because of my race or appearance??
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Postby mrkeys » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:20 pm

I have also had some eyewitness accounts. From my friends Chris and Marissa who paint the story alittle differently.

I am not sitting on any high horse by the way. We are debating an issue. Have you noticed I have not attacked you in any way shape or form. Yet you trot out the beautiful ad hominem attack of "sitting on my high horse" you don't know me from a bar of soap but yet you categorise my opinions into an attack on my character. I wasn't talking about YOU. But 4800 people acting together can stop things. Why are you feeling so threatened?

Stop trying to attack the man and have a rational discussion. This is how violence first starts with emotive language which turns to physical action. When dialogue moves from the realm of arguement to the realm of attacking each other as people that is where I leave the discussion.

I am willing to debate further if you want to debate the issue not the man....
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Postby scottik187 » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:22 pm

at the early stage there wouldnt have been a problem man...but later once they dickheads were liquored up then probably not...sad state of affairs. it was really stupid the way people were behaving.
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Postby craigwardo » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:26 pm

You hardly look Lebanese though Luis.
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Postby scottik187 » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:26 pm

yeah sorry...my bad. Ive just been hearing a lot of that sorta stuff.

debate away.

i agree, 4800 could have stopped it happening. But, personally, i had no idea what was even going on. I had to watch the news on sunday night to find out what actually happened.
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Postby weaselinarabbitsuit » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:27 pm

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