Sydney Race Riots...

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Postby Hitman » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:30 pm

craigthropik wrote:No - I was merely transfering your values and beliefs onto my life. Using your model - I am not longer human as I am not shocked by what happened.


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Postby Hitman » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:32 pm

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craigthropik wrote:You have some good points Luis, I just think they are a bit "mickey mouse" for lack of a better term.

These people have generally had these views shoved in their face from the time they were born, it's a generational thing, and is going to take a lot more than a couple of self help classes to eradicate.


So are you, Craig, going to bring your children up to be tolerant of racist behaviour? Are you going to tell them - "you know what? Racism is just a part of life- deal with it." Are you going to encourage them NOT to actively work to better our society?


All this kind of shit is reason enough to NOT have children...
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Postby craigwardo » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:33 pm

BustyB wrote:
craigthropik wrote:You have some good points Luis, I just think they are a bit "mickey mouse" for lack of a better term.

These people have generally had these views shoved in their face from the time they were born, it's a generational thing, and is going to take a lot more than a couple of self help classes to eradicate.


So are you, Craig, going to bring your children up to be tolerant of racist behaviour? Are you going to tell them - "you know what? Racism is just a part of life- deal with it." Are you going to encourage them NOT to actively work to better our society?


I am going to encourage my kids to make up their OWN mind. I will discuss with them my point of view - in that I don't see a person as having a race, just as being human. I will NOT in anyway force MY beliefs onto my children.
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Postby Hitman » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:36 pm

So you don't believe in teaching children right from wrong?

So you'll "discuss" with them when they are 5 about not eating rat poison because it might kill them, but if you see them doing it you won't stop them?
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Postby Chantel » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:40 pm

craigthropik wrote:I am going to encourage my kids to make up their OWN mind. I will discuss with them my point of view - in that I don't see a person as having a race, just as being human. I will NOT in anyway force MY beliefs onto my children.


And you'll be ok if one or all of your children came home telling you how much they hate someone because they APPEAR different to them?

You'll be ok if they commit a hate crime?

You say that the whole racist problem comes down to it being generational and yet you don't see part of the solution as being the same. If parents, teachers, guardians, friends etc educated our younger generations that yes, in fact we are just human and that just because you come from a different country or look different does not instantly make you a bad person, then that could very well be the start of a humanitary revolution.
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Postby craigwardo » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:41 pm

Teaching "right from wrong" is different to forcing my cultural and political beliefs onto my child.
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Postby Hitman » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:43 pm

Well, I guess that's where you and I differ.
I racisim is NOT a belief, it is WRONG...
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Postby Hitman » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:44 pm

BustyB wrote:
craigthropik wrote:I am going to encourage my kids to make up their OWN mind. I will discuss with them my point of view - in that I don't see a person as having a race, just as being human. I will NOT in anyway force MY beliefs onto my children.


And you'll be ok if one or all of your children came home telling you how much they hate someone because they APPEAR different to them?

You'll be ok if they commit a hate crime?

You say that the whole racist problem comes down to it being generational and yet you don't see part of the solution as being the same. If parents, teachers, guardians, friends etc educated our younger generations that yes, in fact we are just human and that just because you come from a different country or look different does not instantly make you a bad person, then that could very well be the start of a humanitary revolution.


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Postby Chantel » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:45 pm

Racism has no purpose and there should be zero tolerance.

It is completely irrational.
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Postby Chantel » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:46 pm

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